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- Well, I knew everyone would disagree with me. Thank you for doing so politely.
-
- I'd like to make it clear that I do *NOT* suggest line breaks and / or
- page breaks to annoy people, nor because I have a specific interest in
- poetry (though I do). Dave Raggett suggested a <poem> tag, and as I saw
- no smiley, I assume he was at least semi-serious. IMHO, the idea sucks.
- T V Raman made a similar comment about representing the high-level
- structure of a poems, but I would claim that that is not the business of HTML.
-
- The general philsophy is to be "Keep HTML minimal". I agree, and concur
- with the idea of embedding e.g. GIF and TeX. You are right, Dave, that
- HTML must not be all things to all men. I would add "or anyone for that
- matter". So - let us maintain the high-level representations of our
- docs (e.g. poetry) in our authoring systems, and then PUBLISH them as
- HTML. Some poetry is published on e.g. audio tape, but the vast
- majority is published on paper and obeys the conventions of line
- breaks, verse breaks, page breaks etc, even though the author may
- COMPOSE it in very different terms that just don't come across when
- reading it. My feeling is that HTML should provide low-level PUBLISHING
- functions, but not aetherial concepts or <poem> tags.
-
- My best suggestion is an argument to <pre> ; e.g. <pre monofont> and
- <pre normalfont>. Or maybe <pre style="em">, where the style argument
- can be any valid text style tag or "plain"? This allows me to separate
- the lines of my address (or poem) properly, introduces no extra tags,
- and <pre> with no argument can default to the normal meaning of
- "monospaced, to suit a listing or programming example".
-
- OK, on to "page breaks". Or since, this kind of terminology seems to
- offend people, may I suggest "multibody files"? It occurs to me that a
- special "page break" tag is unneccesary. All we need is a well
- established method of handling multiple <body></body> pairs in one file.
-
- * Browsers can search across a whole set of short bodies
- * Browsers don't have to try to whack the whole of an enormous file onto a text
- widget. XMosaic already has to break large files into "pages", so it seems
- like a good idea to make the "pages" more logical.
- * Most authors and (the tools they use) consider multiple chapters of one
- document to logically belong in one file.
- * Most readers don't read large documents from page one and progress to the end
-
- An obvious example is a technical manual or a Usenet FAQ. All I want to
- see is the index and/or table of contents, then the chapter or section
- which answers my question. I don't want to wait for vast quantities of
- gunk to be mapped into a window ESPECIALLY if it contains inlined
- images (e.g. the Vatican library document index). Just show me the
- section which is relevent. OK, if I then want to browse down the index,
- fine, but let it be my choice.
-
- It's possible that these things are solved better by Dave Raggett's
- html2 DTD, but I can't get to hplose.hpl.hp.com. Care to give us the IP
- address while your netbods set up the name, Dave?
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- Peter Lister p.lister@cranfield.ac.uk
- Computer Centre,
- Cranfield Institute of Technology, Voice: +44 234 754200 ext 2828
- Cranfield, Bedfordshire MK43 0AL UK Fax: +44 234 750875
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